{"id":1570,"date":"2013-11-24T02:09:46","date_gmt":"2013-11-24T00:09:46","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/dokuzadabirdeniz.com\/?p=1570"},"modified":"2016-02-09T21:08:16","modified_gmt":"2016-02-09T19:08:16","slug":"once-soz-vardi","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/dokuzadabirdeniz.com\/?p=1570","title":{"rendered":"\u00d6nce s\u00f6z vard\u0131&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"font-family: 'Palatino Linotype', 'Book Antiqua', Palatino, serif; font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>\u00d6nce s\u00f6z vard\u0131&#8230;<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: 'Palatino Linotype', 'Book Antiqua', Palatino, serif; font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>Kerem<\/strong> &#8211; <em>Heybeliada<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: 'Palatino Linotype', 'Book Antiqua', Palatino, serif; font-size: 12pt;\">Heybeliada forumunu seviyorum, \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc \u00e7ok canl\u0131, heyecan dolu bir varl\u0131k. Do\u011frudan demokrasi denemesi, ama onu b\u00f6yle tan\u0131mlamak o kadar da kolay de\u011fil, \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc pek \u00e7ok konuda neyin nas\u0131l yap\u0131laca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 &#8220;ona soran olmad\u0131&#8221;. Heybeliada forumu e\u015fsiz, \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc her kat\u0131l\u0131mc\u0131 biraz kendini kat\u0131yor ona, onu kendine benzetiyor. \u00dczerine konu\u015fmak zor, ama san\u0131r\u0131m \u00e7ok gerekli. \u015euradan deneyece\u011fim; s\u00f6z\u00fcn g\u00fcc\u00fcn\u00fc savunmal\u0131y\u0131z!<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: 'Palatino Linotype', 'Book Antiqua', Palatino, serif; font-size: 12pt;\">Her t\u00fcr \u00f6tekile\u015ftirme, ki\u015fisel hakaret s\u00f6z\u00fcn g\u00fcc\u00fcn\u00fc azalt\u0131r. Birileri gelmek istemez art\u0131k, gelmeyenin konu\u015fma ihtimali de ortadan kalkar. Forum moderat\u00f6rleri o hareketleri tan\u0131tt\u0131ktan sonra, ayr\u0131mc\u0131l\u0131k, ki\u015fisel hakaret yap\u0131lamaz demeli. Heybeliada forumu t\u00fcm heybeliadalal\u0131lara a\u00e7\u0131k ve davetkar olmal\u0131d\u0131r. \u0130nsanlar\u0131 siyasi tercihlerine g\u00f6re de ay\u0131rmadan&#8230; Buradan bir &#8220;biz&#8221; \u00e7\u0131kar m\u0131? Bana kal\u0131rsa elbette \u00e7\u0131kar. Do\u011fay\u0131 ve onun bir par\u00e7as\u0131 olarak insan\u0131 savunmak herhalde hemen t\u00fcm adal\u0131lar\u0131n ortak paydas\u0131d\u0131r.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: 'Palatino Linotype', 'Book Antiqua', Palatino, serif; font-size: 12pt;\"><br \/>\nS\u00f6z kirlenir. Sizin daha \u00f6nce neler yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131za ya da ba\u015fka ba\u011flamlara bakarak s\u00f6yledi\u011finizin d\u0131\u015f\u0131nda<\/span><span style=\"font-family: 'Palatino Linotype', 'Book Antiqua', Palatino, serif; font-size: 12pt;\">\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-family: 'Palatino Linotype', 'Book Antiqua', Palatino, serif; font-size: 12pt;\">\u015feyler de anlar insanlar. O y\u00fczden ba\u015fka akt\u00f6rlerle, \u00f6zellikle siyasi partilerle ili\u015fkilerimize dikkat etmeliyiz. Bu anlamda, \u00f6ne\u011fin Sivriada&#8217;<a href=\"http:\/\/dokuzadabirdeniz.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/forum2015-1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-3388 \" src=\"http:\/\/dokuzadabirdeniz.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/forum2015-1.jpg\" alt=\"forum2015\" width=\"368\" height=\"306\" srcset=\"https:\/\/dokuzadabirdeniz.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/forum2015-1.jpg 612w, https:\/\/dokuzadabirdeniz.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/forum2015-1-150x125.jpg 150w, https:\/\/dokuzadabirdeniz.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/forum2015-1-300x249.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 368px) 100vw, 368px\" \/><\/a>ya giderken belediyenin olanaklar\u0131ndan faydalanmak bence yanl\u0131\u015f bir tercihti.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: 'Palatino Linotype', 'Book Antiqua', Palatino, serif; font-size: 12pt;\">Ayr\u0131ca evet bence de, hakk\u0131m\u0131z olan\u0131 do\u011frudan talep etmeliyiz. &#8220;\u0130stemeyi bileceksin&#8221; yakla\u015f\u0131m\u0131 s\u00f6z\u00fcm\u00fcz\u00fc zedeler; s\u00f6z\u00fcm\u00fcz\u00fc s\u00f6ylerken hep iktidarlar\u0131 hesaba katmaya ba\u015flar\u0131z. Pek \u00e7ok sivil toplum kurulu\u015fu c\u00fcmleyi kurmaya iktidar\u0131 hesaba katarak ba\u015fl\u0131yor ve elbette pek \u00e7ok zaman sonu\u00e7 almakta daha ba\u015far\u0131l\u0131. Onlar var, vard\u0131lar, olsunlar, ama forum ba\u015fka bir \u015fey. Merkezine burada ya\u015fayan insan\u0131 ve onun s\u00f6z\u00fcn\u00fc al\u0131yor. Forumun amac\u0131 heybeliadal\u0131lar\u0131n sorunlar\u0131n\u0131n \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fclmesi de\u011fil, onlar\u0131n s\u00f6z\u00fcn\u00fcn g\u00fcc\u00fc olmas\u0131d\u0131r. \u0130kincisi oldu\u011fu zaman zaten birincisi olacakt\u0131r, ama ama\u00e7 birincisi oldu\u011funda her \u015feyi her zaman iktidarlarla pazarl\u0131k etmek durumunda kalaca\u011f\u0131z. Kald\u0131 ki gidi\u015fat \u00e7ok k\u00f6t\u00fc; sermayenin t\u00fcm hak ve de\u011ferlerimize giderek artan bir sald\u0131r\u0131s\u0131 var. S\u00fcrekli bir \u015feyleri yitiriyoruz ve b\u00f6yle bir zamanda iktidarlar\u0131 ikna ederek alabileceklerimiz bence \u00e7ok s\u0131n\u0131rl\u0131.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: 'Palatino Linotype', 'Book Antiqua', Palatino, serif; font-size: 12pt;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-2347 size-medium alignright\" src=\"http:\/\/dokuzadabirdeniz.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/heybeliforum2-212x300.jpg\" alt=\"heybeliforum2\" width=\"212\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/dokuzadabirdeniz.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/heybeliforum2-212x300.jpg 212w, https:\/\/dokuzadabirdeniz.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/heybeliforum2-106x150.jpg 106w, https:\/\/dokuzadabirdeniz.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/heybeliforum2.jpg 551w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 212px) 100vw, 212px\" \/>Forumu ara\u00e7salla\u015ft\u0131rmak s\u00f6z\u00fc yok ediyor. Birinin t\u00fcm derdi forumdan bir konuda kendi istedi\u011fi bir karar \u00e7\u0131kmas\u0131ysa, ba\u015fkalar\u0131n\u0131n s\u00f6z\u00fcne a\u00e7\u0131k olmayacakt\u0131r. Oysa biz s\u00f6z\u00fc savunmal\u0131y\u0131z; forumda hepimizin akl\u0131ndan fazlas\u0131 var. \u0130nsanlar\u0131 de\u011fi\u015ftirmek istiyoruz ama belki de \u015fimdiye kadar hi\u00e7 dinlememi\u015f oldu\u011fumuz farkl\u0131 farkl\u0131 insanlar\u0131 dinlemeye, onlar\u0131n da bizi d\u00f6n\u00fc\u015ft\u00fcrmesine a\u00e7\u0131k m\u0131y\u0131z?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: 'Palatino Linotype', 'Book Antiqua', Palatino, serif; font-size: 12pt;\">Gen\u00e7lik grubu bence de k\u00f6t\u00fc bir fikir, partilerin gen\u00e7lik kollar\u0131n\u0131 \u00e7a\u011fr\u0131\u015ft\u0131r\u0131yor. Politikan\u0131n ikinci ligi gibi. Gen\u00e7 bir insan\u0131n s\u00f6z\u00fc forumda dinleniyor mu? \u00d6nemli olan budur. Gen\u00e7 ya da ya\u015fl\u0131, kad\u0131n, erkek, \u00e7ocuk, esnaf, i\u015fsiz, \u015fu partili ya da bu partili, eski ya da yeni adal\u0131, forum i\u00e7in \u00e7ok ya da az \u00e7al\u0131\u015fan, k\u00fc\u00e7\u00fcmsenmeden ayn\u0131 sayg\u0131yla dinleniyor mu? Ele\u015ftirilirken incitiliyor mu, d\u0131\u015flan\u0131yor mu?<br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: 'Palatino Linotype', 'Book Antiqua', Palatino, serif; font-size: 12pt;\">\u00c7o\u011fulculu\u011fu savunmal\u0131y\u0131z. Neyin daha \u00f6nemli oldu\u011funu kimse bilemez. Oysa topluluklarda bunun \u00fczerinden tahakk\u00fcm ba\u015flar. Mesela gen\u00e7 bir insan s\u00f6z al\u0131r, ard\u0131ndan konu\u015fan a\u011f\u0131r abi gayet kibarca bunun \u00e7ok de\u011ferli bir g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015f olduunu ama neyin daha \u00f6nemli oldu\u011funu s\u00f6yler. Forum \u00e7o\u011fulculu\u011fu savunursa daha yava\u015f hareket eder, ama bu daha insanidir.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: 'Palatino Linotype', 'Book Antiqua', Palatino, serif; font-size: 12pt;\">Vaktimiz var. Pek \u00e7ok konuda bir an \u00f6nce bir\u015feyler yapmal\u0131y\u0131z kabul. Bir an \u00f6nce bir \u015feyler yapan \u00e7al\u0131\u015fma gruplar\u0131 olsun, ona da eyvallah, ama bu vaktimiz yok s\u00f6ylemi, (ki asl\u0131nda o da neyin daha \u00f6nemli oldu\u011fu meselesine dayan\u0131yor) forumda s\u00f6z\u00fcn \u00f6zg\u00fcrl\u00fc\u011f\u00fcn\u00fc k\u0131s\u0131tlamamal\u0131.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: 'Palatino Linotype', 'Book Antiqua', Palatino, serif; font-size: 12pt;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/dokuzadabirdeniz.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/heybeliforumFLY3.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-2670 size-medium alignleft\" src=\"http:\/\/dokuzadabirdeniz.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/heybeliforumFLY3-263x300.jpg\" alt=\"heybeliforumFLY3\" width=\"263\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/dokuzadabirdeniz.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/heybeliforumFLY3-263x300.jpg 263w, https:\/\/dokuzadabirdeniz.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/heybeliforumFLY3-132x150.jpg 132w, https:\/\/dokuzadabirdeniz.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/heybeliforumFLY3.jpg 531w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 263px) 100vw, 263px\" \/><\/a>\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: 'Palatino Linotype', 'Book Antiqua', Palatino, serif; font-size: 12pt;\">\u00c7al\u0131\u015fma gruplar\u0131 \u015feffafla\u015fmal\u0131 ve konular\u0131 daralt\u0131lmal\u0131. S\u00f6z\u00fc yok etme tehlikesi var bu gruplar\u0131n. Karar \u00fcreten de\u011fil, i\u015f \u00fcreten birimler olmal\u0131lar ve bizi haberdar etmekten de sorumlu olmal\u0131lar.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: 'Palatino Linotype', 'Book Antiqua', Palatino, serif; font-size: 12pt;\">Bir a\u00e7\u0131dan t\u00fcm sorunlar\u0131n temeli ayn\u0131. \u0130nsana ve do\u011faya sayg\u0131 g\u00f6stermiyorlar. Fakat bizden \u00e7ekiniyorlar, onu da hissediyoruz de\u011fil mi? \u0130htimallerden korkuyorlar. Forum, s\u00f6z\u00fc savunabildi\u011fi \u00f6l\u00e7\u00fcde a\u015fk\u0131n bir \u015fey \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc; yapabileceklerinin s\u0131n\u0131r\u0131 \u00f6nceden belirlenemez. Bu daha ba\u015flang\u0131\u00e7 ve yolumuz a\u00e7\u0131k olsun.<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u00d6nce s\u00f6z vard\u0131&#8230; Kerem &#8211; Heybeliada Heybeliada forumunu seviyorum, \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc \u00e7ok canl\u0131, heyecan dolu bir varl\u0131k. Do\u011frudan demokrasi denemesi, ama onu b\u00f6yle tan\u0131mlamak o kadar da kolay de\u011fil, \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc pek \u00e7ok konuda neyin nas\u0131l yap\u0131laca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 &#8220;ona soran olmad\u0131&#8221;. Heybeliada forumu e\u015fsiz, \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc her kat\u0131l\u0131mc\u0131 biraz kendini kat\u0131yor ona, onu kendine benzetiyor. \u00dczerine konu\u015fmak zor, ama &hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":2520,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0},"categories":[1,85,3],"tags":[104],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/dokuzadabirdeniz.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1570"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/dokuzadabirdeniz.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/dokuzadabirdeniz.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dokuzadabirdeniz.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dokuzadabirdeniz.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=1570"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/dokuzadabirdeniz.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1570\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":3389,"href":"https:\/\/dokuzadabirdeniz.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1570\/revisions\/3389"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dokuzadabirdeniz.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/2520"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/dokuzadabirdeniz.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=1570"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dokuzadabirdeniz.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=1570"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dokuzadabirdeniz.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=1570"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}